Comcast for the win...
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2019 14:27:40 -0600 From: BackUP Telecom ConsultingTo: Oren Yehezkely Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Growing difficulties porting DIDs out of major VoIP carriers Message-ID: <48e6b067b10815fad1884f28047567de@backuptelecom.com> Technically, it is possible to port without an LSR as long as winning carrier submits their port request in NPAC and the losing carrier concurs. The LSR is technically just a courtesy notice sent to the losing carrier so they know to look for the port request in NPAC, but a lot of games get played when it comes to LSRs on both sides of the fence. The losing carriers often play games by refusing to concur in NPAC until they receive a "valid" LSR (which can require an act of God to be considered valid). Winning carriers also play games sometimes by refusing to put any effort into making the port happen. Tracking an LSR through the entire process involves a lot of work that they would prefer not to do so they purposely weed out the customers that don't really care enough to make a big deal about keeping their old number. Some winning carriers have no clue what to do if they run into a problem with the port request and others just refuse to deal with a request if doesn't go through easily. Last year I was without my business number for about 11 months after I moved because Comcast disconnected my service before the port completed. I complained that I'd had my number for 10 years before porting it to them but that didn't seem to bother them. They had no intention of putting the effort into getting my number back! Initially they claimed they couldn't get it back after it had been disconnected. Then they told me it had already been released back to the previous carrier. When I told them I was a telecom consultant and knew their SPID was still associated with my TN, they finally admitted it was still available, but claimed they couldn't give it back to me unless I installed new service with them. I told them I had it call forwarded to another number for months after I disconnected the equipment but they claimed they couldn't turn it back on unless there was equipment at my previous location. After numerous calls and a threat to file an FCC complaint, I finally got them to turn it up for a month so I could port it away. I ended up having to pay them $110.00 so they could dispatch a tech to my previous location and activate my number. (The tech hooked up the equipment, activated the phone service and then removed the equipment and told me not to return it until after my number ported.) SO frustrating, especially since I could have walked them through the entire process! Unfortunately there's not a lot of oversight and it's very difficult for an end user to get help when it happens so until these offending carriers get their hand slapped enough, they have no incentive to clean up their act! Mary Lou Carey BackUP Telecom Consulting